Stelle 8 Respondeant nunc mihi obtrectator...; (Historiarum adversum paganos libri VII (417 - 418), Lib. 4, Cap. 17, 8-11 (Vol. II, pp. 54-5, trans. Fear, pp. 189-90)) [5850]

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Text Historiarum adversum paganos libri VII (417 - 418) Orosius
Quotation 8 Respondeant nunc mihi obtrectatores ueri Dei hoc loco: Hannibalem a capessenda subruendaque Roma utrum Romana abstinuit fortitudo an diuina miseratio ? aut forsitan conseruati isti dedignantur fateri, quod Hannibal et uictor extimuit et cedens probauit ac - 9 si istam diuinam tutelam per pluuiam de caelo uenisse manifestum est, ipsam autem pluuiam opportunis et necessariis temporibus non nisi per Christum, qui est uerus Deus, ministrari - etiam ab huiusmodi satis certo sciri nec negari posse existimo: 10 maxime nunc - quando ad documentum potentiae eius, cum siccitate turbante pluuiam poscere adsidue contingit, et alternis uicibus nunc gentiles nunc Christiani rogant nec umquam etiam ipsis testibus factum est, ut optati imbres superueniant nisi in die, quo rogari Christum et Christianis rogare permittitur - 11 procul dubio constat, urbem Romam per hunc eundem uerum Deum, qui est Christus Iesus, ordinantem secundum placitum ineffabilis iudicii sui, et tunc ad futurae fidei credulitatem seruatam fuisse et nunc pro parte sui incredula castigatam.
Translation 8. Now let the detractors of the True God give me a reply here, was it Roman courage or Divine mercy that stood in the way of Hannibal seizing and sacking Rome? Perhaps those who were saved think it unworthy to admit that even though Hannibal was triumphant, he became afraid and made this evident by retreating. 9. If it is clear that Divine protection came in the shape of rain from heaven, I think it can be seen with clear certainty of the same type, and impossible to deny, that this rain was opportunely brought at a time of necessity by None other than Christ who is the True God. 10. This is especially the case when now we can add to the proof of His powers. For when a drought wreaked havoc, they prayed continuously for rain, the gentiles on some days and the Christians on others, and the longed- for downpour never came, as even the gentiles themselves bore witness, except on the day when it was permitted for Christ to be approached and an approach to be made by the Christians. 11. So there can be no doubt that the city of Rome was saved by this same True God, Who is Christ Jesus, Who orders things according to the decrees of His ineffable judgment, and that it was then saved on account of its faith which was to come and is now being punished for the faction there who do not believe.
Quotation source Lib. 4, Cap. 17, 8-11 (Vol. II, pp. 54-5, trans. Fear, pp. 189-90)
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